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As a personal document, it’s alive and changing. In many ways, do I think I deserve gold for it? Yes. I don’t know how to talk about it because it’s such a real thing.

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And even this very thing here-because I was thinking about this, the Little Gold Men podcast. So when I’m promoting, it feels weird because as a piece of art, as a thing that I made, as a thing to say “tune in,” that feels a little false. And like you said, it’s very, very personal. Because on one hand, I would always prefer to just release things, and then you find it, and I go and work and then come back when I have something else to say. Yeah, I have conflicting feelings about that. I’m curious how that part of talking about the special and talking about your life has been for you in a context that is, inevitably, a little promotional and quite exposed.

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This is a very personal project, on many levels, and we’re talking for an awards podcast. It’s one of those things that you just see it and you’re like, “Yeah, of course.” Of course life has to line up that way in order for me to have a sense of humor.

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